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| + | '''ALERT:''' Some guy on YouTube posted, in July 2023, a video of this story (published about 10 years ago), using pretty much all the info and many of the photos. You can view it [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp3iSRUyjnU&t=2s HERE] ... I posted a comment requesting that he credit the BeatlesWiki story, at the very least. No reply... | ||
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===NEW! The Earliest Photograph of Paul McCartney & John Lennon Together=== | ===NEW! The Earliest Photograph of Paul McCartney & John Lennon Together=== | ||
| − | [[image:Quarrymen-mccartney_1957_full.jpg|right|thumb|400px|caption|John Lennon performing with the Quarrymen 22 Jun 1957, as Paul checks out the scene...]]<br />In this photo of [[The Quarrymen|the Quarrymen's]] 22 June 1957 gig we see John Lennon singing and what appears to be Paul McCartney in the audience looking on, in either glasses or shades. | + | [[image:Quarrymen-mccartney_1957_full.jpg|right|thumb|400px|caption|John Lennon performing with the Quarrymen 22 Jun 1957, as Paul checks out the scene... PHOTO: Charles Roberts]]<br />In this photo of [[The Quarrymen|the Quarrymen's]] 22 June 1957 gig we see John Lennon singing and what appears to be Paul McCartney in the audience looking on, in either glasses or shades. |
| − | This photo of the Quarrymen (aka Quarry Men) has been around for ages. Amongst numerous other Beatles books, it is included in Mark Lewisohn's 1992 book ''The Complete Beatles Chronicle'' and the companion book to the Beatles Anthology documentary, ''The Beatles Anthology'', published in 2000. | + | This photo of the Quarrymen (aka Quarry Men), by [http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1950s/57.06.22%20rosebery%20st/57.06.22rosebery.html Charles Roberts], has been around for ages. Amongst numerous other Beatles books, it is included in Mark Lewisohn's 1992 book ''The Complete Beatles Chronicle'' and the companion book to the Beatles Anthology documentary, ''The Beatles Anthology'', published in 2000. |
Which is to say, it's not a fake or in any way doctored. | Which is to say, it's not a fake or in any way doctored. | ||
| − | The photo is not as common as the one taken at the Quarrymen's 6 July 1957 gig at St. Peter's Church garden féte in Woolton ([http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1950s/57.07.06%20fete/1.jpg View it]) where McCartney was introduced to Lennon, and where Lennon is looking straight at the camera. | + | The photo is not as common as the one taken at the Quarrymen's 6 July 1957 gig at St. Peter's Church garden féte in Woolton ([http://www.beatlesource.com/savage/1950s/57.07.06%20fete/1.jpg View it]) where McCartney says he was introduced to Lennon, and where Lennon is looking straight at the camera. |
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| + | '''Paul is obviously mixed up about when he first saw John'''<br /> | ||
| + | In an interview the Beatles gave during their 1966 Japanese tour, they're asked about people paying to see them perform... | ||
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| + | '''Paul:''' “I paid 17 and 6 to see Bill Haley. I was 12. Broke me. [Turns to John] I saw you too on the same show. Probably the first time." | ||
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| + | Paul's referencing a show on February 20, 1957, when Haley played the Liverpool Odeon. [http://www.americanrocknrolluktours.co.uk/tour/bill-haley-feb-march-1957 Haley Tour] | ||
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| + | Obviously, Paul eventually came around to accepting the consensus memory of him seeing and meeting John on July 6, 1957 when, in reality, he knew it was sometime in 1957, but not the specific date or event. | ||
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| + | <!--Paul's recollection starts a bit after 13'10":<br /> | ||
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| + | ===What do <em>you</em> think?=== | ||
| + | [[image:Paul_1961.jpg|left]]In the detail below, compare Paul in the Quarrymen photo (at 15) and (inset) Paul at 19 or 20. The chin, the nose, the mouth, the ear, the whole thing... and the sideways part of the hair on the back of his head! If it's not Paul, it's his ''doppelganger''!<br /><br />Here are [http://www.maccafan.net/Bands/XoomBand_57_59/XoomBandIndex57_59.htm some various Quarrymen photos] after Paul joined, around the same time. Folks have said he was "chubbier" at that time, but I think he's pretty much like the guy in the photo. | ||
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| − | < | + | ==The White Sports Jacket with Metallic Threads== |
| + | [[image:paul_1957_filey.jpg|left|thumb|caption|Compare Paul's jacket in this photo, taken in the Summer of 1957 in Filey, with the one the guy in the Rosebery Street photo is wearing, also summer 1957! Filey is a seaside resort about 140 miles NW of Liverpool.|300px]]"We were sitting round a table having coffee when Ivan and Paul came in. McCartney was wearing a white jacket and black drainpipes" —Len Garry, bassist with the Quarrymen <br /><br />"Paul's main reason for going to the Woolton féte was not to meet John Lennon but to try to pick up a girl. To this end he wore an outfit loosely modelled on the popular hit 'A White Sports Coat and a Pink Carnation', then regarded as the height of teen fashion. His white sports jacket had metallic threads which made the fabric sparkle." — Barry Miles, ''Many Years From Now'' (1994), p.27<br /><br />Is this ''the'' jacket? It may or may not be the "white" jacket mentioned in the lore, but it definitely appears to be the same shade as the one in the Rosebery photograph. And, hey, the white shirt? And the haircut? It's definitely Paul at that 22 June 1957 Quarrymen gig, astride his bike, in either sunglasses or just glasses. | ||
| − | [[image: | + | [[image:paul-jacket-quarrymen.jpg|left|thumb|caption|The Quarrymen, with Colin Hanton (drums) and Len Garry (tea chest bass), 23 Nov 1957 — Note Paul's jacket ... again!|300px]] |
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| + | ==Photos of the Teenage Paul McCartney== | ||
| + | Some who are skeptical of the guy in the Quarrymen photo being Paul say that he was "chubby" at the time and they guy in the photo isn't. Paul <em>may</em> have had a chubby period, but the below photos show teenage Paul looking fairly trim. ([http://georgeandpaulbeatles.wordpress.com/ Thanks to TheBeatlesBeat Website for a couple of these!] | ||
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| + | [[image:.Teen-Paul-class.jpg|center|thumb|275px|caption|Teenage Paul, in class photo]] | ||
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| + | [[image:Teen-Paul.jpg|center|thumb|275px|caption|Teenage Paul, date unknown (he doesn't have long hair; that's shadow)]] | ||
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| + | [[image:Teen-Paul-George.jpg|center|thumb|275px|caption|Teenage Paul, with George Harrison and unknown mate]] | ||
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| + | ==A Video Interview with Dave at St Peter's Church, Woolton== | ||
| + | <div style="float:left; margin-right:20px;">{{#ev:youtube|VbcSUSyxiNg}}</div> As you'll see in this video, Dave, a helper at St Peter's Church, was apparently at the Woolton féte and says, rather definitively, that Paul "rode his bike" to the féte on 6 July.<br /><br />In the Quarrymen pic with "Paul", it would appear that he is perhaps standing astride a bicycle which, of course, would likely be the way he got to the Rosebery Street gig two weeks earlier. | ||
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==Yes, But Did Paul McCartney Wear Glasses?== | ==Yes, But Did Paul McCartney Wear Glasses?== | ||
| − | A bespectacled Paul McCartney is clearly present at [[The Quarrymen|the Quarrymen's]] June 22, 1957 gig on Rosebery Street. | + | [[image:John-Paul_1961.jpg|right|thumb|200px|caption|John & Paul, 1961]] A bespectacled Paul McCartney — wearing glasses or perhaps sunglasses — is clearly present at [[The Quarrymen|the Quarrymen's]] June 22, 1957 gig on Rosebery Street. |
Many Beatles fans and experts aren't aware that Paul wore glasses and this perhaps is why Paul's obvious presence in the audience has been overlooked for 50 years. | Many Beatles fans and experts aren't aware that Paul wore glasses and this perhaps is why Paul's obvious presence in the audience has been overlooked for 50 years. | ||
[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-445887/Exclusive-Unseen-Beatles-photo.html# This ''Daily Mail'' article] includes the following, accompanied by this Frank Herrmann photo during the [[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band|Sgt. Pepper]] recording-session meeting: | [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-445887/Exclusive-Unseen-Beatles-photo.html# This ''Daily Mail'' article] includes the following, accompanied by this Frank Herrmann photo during the [[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band|Sgt. Pepper]] recording-session meeting: | ||
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[[image:mccartney-hermann-glasses.jpg|left|thumb|450px|caption|The Beatles in a meeting with George Martin during the Sgt. Pepper sessions, 30 Mar 1967 - Photo: Frank Herrmann]] | [[image:mccartney-hermann-glasses.jpg|left|thumb|450px|caption|The Beatles in a meeting with George Martin during the Sgt. Pepper sessions, 30 Mar 1967 - Photo: Frank Herrmann]] | ||
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| − | Who knows whether or not Paul ''needed'' to wear glasses. Maybe it was just something cool to do, ''a la'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly Buddy Holly] (Lennon and McCartney were both huge fans and hugely influenced by Holly), or looking older (he'd turned 15 just 4 days before the | + | Who knows whether or not Paul ''needed'' to wear glasses. Maybe it was just something cool to do, ''a la'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly Buddy Holly] (Lennon and McCartney were both huge fans and hugely influenced by Holly), or looking older (he'd turned 15 just 4 days before the Rosebery Street photo), or perhaps more intellectual and mature so as to appeal to the girls he was there to check out. |
Anyway, there's a reason why this is a hot topic.... | Anyway, there's a reason why this is a hot topic.... | ||
Latest revision as of 11:00, 31 July 2023
ALERT: Some guy on YouTube posted, in July 2023, a video of this story (published about 10 years ago), using pretty much all the info and many of the photos. You can view it HERE ... I posted a comment requesting that he credit the BeatlesWiki story, at the very least. No reply...
Contents
- 1 NEW! The Earliest Photograph of Paul McCartney & John Lennon Together
- 2 What do you think?
- 3 The White Sports Jacket with Metallic Threads
- 4 Photos of the Teenage Paul McCartney
- 5 A Video Interview with Dave at St Peter's Church, Woolton
- 6 Yes, But Did Paul McCartney Wear Glasses?
- 7 More Photos of Paul McCartney Wearing Glasses
NEW! The Earliest Photograph of Paul McCartney & John Lennon Together
In this photo of the Quarrymen's 22 June 1957 gig we see John Lennon singing and what appears to be Paul McCartney in the audience looking on, in either glasses or shades.
This photo of the Quarrymen (aka Quarry Men), by Charles Roberts, has been around for ages. Amongst numerous other Beatles books, it is included in Mark Lewisohn's 1992 book The Complete Beatles Chronicle and the companion book to the Beatles Anthology documentary, The Beatles Anthology, published in 2000.
Which is to say, it's not a fake or in any way doctored.
The photo is not as common as the one taken at the Quarrymen's 6 July 1957 gig at St. Peter's Church garden féte in Woolton (View it) where McCartney says he was introduced to Lennon, and where Lennon is looking straight at the camera.
HOWEVER...
Paul is obviously mixed up about when he first saw John
In an interview the Beatles gave during their 1966 Japanese tour, they're asked about people paying to see them perform...
Paul: “I paid 17 and 6 to see Bill Haley. I was 12. Broke me. [Turns to John] I saw you too on the same show. Probably the first time."
Paul's referencing a show on February 20, 1957, when Haley played the Liverpool Odeon. Haley Tour
Obviously, Paul eventually came around to accepting the consensus memory of him seeing and meeting John on July 6, 1957 when, in reality, he knew it was sometime in 1957, but not the specific date or event.
What do you think?
Here are some various Quarrymen photos after Paul joined, around the same time. Folks have said he was "chubbier" at that time, but I think he's pretty much like the guy in the photo.
Feel free to comment
The White Sports Jacket with Metallic Threads
"We were sitting round a table having coffee when Ivan and Paul came in. McCartney was wearing a white jacket and black drainpipes" —Len Garry, bassist with the Quarrymen
"Paul's main reason for going to the Woolton féte was not to meet John Lennon but to try to pick up a girl. To this end he wore an outfit loosely modelled on the popular hit 'A White Sports Coat and a Pink Carnation', then regarded as the height of teen fashion. His white sports jacket had metallic threads which made the fabric sparkle." — Barry Miles, Many Years From Now (1994), p.27
Is this the jacket? It may or may not be the "white" jacket mentioned in the lore, but it definitely appears to be the same shade as the one in the Rosebery photograph. And, hey, the white shirt? And the haircut? It's definitely Paul at that 22 June 1957 Quarrymen gig, astride his bike, in either sunglasses or just glasses.
Photos of the Teenage Paul McCartney
Some who are skeptical of the guy in the Quarrymen photo being Paul say that he was "chubby" at the time and they guy in the photo isn't. Paul may have had a chubby period, but the below photos show teenage Paul looking fairly trim. (Thanks to TheBeatlesBeat Website for a couple of these!
A Video Interview with Dave at St Peter's Church, Woolton
As you'll see in this video, Dave, a helper at St Peter's Church, was apparently at the Woolton féte and says, rather definitively, that Paul "rode his bike" to the féte on 6 July.
In the Quarrymen pic with "Paul", it would appear that he is perhaps standing astride a bicycle which, of course, would likely be the way he got to the Rosebery Street gig two weeks earlier.
Yes, But Did Paul McCartney Wear Glasses?
A bespectacled Paul McCartney — wearing glasses or perhaps sunglasses — is clearly present at the Quarrymen's June 22, 1957 gig on Rosebery Street.
Many Beatles fans and experts aren't aware that Paul wore glasses and this perhaps is why Paul's obvious presence in the audience has been overlooked for 50 years.
This Daily Mail article includes the following, accompanied by this Frank Herrmann photo during the Sgt. Pepper recording-session meeting:
Friends of the singer say McCartney rarely wore glasses because it was part of his friend John's image.
"He was always conscious that John was famous for his glasses," said one friend. "He felt that it was important to maintain their image and John's glasses were part of that.
"His eyesight is also pretty good, so he didn't need to wear them much."
Who knows whether or not Paul needed to wear glasses. Maybe it was just something cool to do, a la Buddy Holly (Lennon and McCartney were both huge fans and hugely influenced by Holly), or looking older (he'd turned 15 just 4 days before the Rosebery Street photo), or perhaps more intellectual and mature so as to appeal to the girls he was there to check out.
Anyway, there's a reason why this is a hot topic....
